The Honey Badger just feels good and I think a lot of that great feeling comes from the weight. They cut all the pork out, they meticulously go through every single aspect and part and use the lightest materials possible, as long as they still function. With suppressor, but sans optic or magazine, the Honey Badger in official Honey Badger configuration weighs five pounds, five ounces on my kitchen scale. That means four-and-a-half pounds without a suppressor. We both love the thing. Q Honey Badger 300 Blackout 7" Pistol, Flat Dark Earth Finish, Collapsible Stock, 30rd Hb-300blk-7inModel: Honey BadgerProduct Type: PISTOLFinish/Color: Flat Dark EarthFrame/Material:... $2,599.00. 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Q focused on taking the iconic ‘Badger to the next level and improved upon every technical aspect of the first-generation design. In your opinion was the SBR with the Honey Badger can quieter than the pistol with the Trash Panda on it? I can shoot the pistol braced on my forearm as the lord intended, arm outstretched, no problem. The key to the compact size of the Honey Badger is from the stock assembly, which is much shorter than a traditional AR buffer tube. For instance, the 6061 aluminum handguard darkens whereas the 7075 aluminum receivers take on more of a gold hue. I found Q’s Honey Badger extremely photogenic, for some reason, so there are nearly more photos than words in this review. The Honey Badger got its start back in 2010 while Kevin Brittingham and his team were at Advanced Armament Corp (AAC). Worth mentioning, though, is that due to the Trash Panda’s larger diameter it takes appreciably longer to get dangerously hot. If it says Q on the side it will be light. F**k that noise. In early October, NRA-ILA alerted gun owners to an ATF decision regarding firearm manufacturer Q LLC’s Honey Badger pistol. The very early version I borrowed had some wobble to it between brace and rails, but this isn’t expected on this brace nor at all typical of any of SB Tactical’s other designs of similar construction. That’s the problem with laws: once the threat and times change, the statute remains until someone changes it. Looks great . I’m leaning towards the pistol w the Trash Panda or Thunder Chicken, but if the SBR and w it’s special suppressor was noticeably quieter I’d go with that. So while I can’t get behind the stock, and the long handguard’s limitations confuse me, I still love the Honey Badger platform. Like going from 300blk to the 556 16” barrel; issues? I particularly like it in-person where the feel beats Cerakote for me hands-down. It’s AR-15 sized, but it has a larger mag well and takes AR-10 mags. That’s because the Honey Badger is precisely as you’d expect and hope it is . MSRP: $2,299 for SBR without silencer, $2,399 for pistol without silencer, $2,999 for SBR with silencer (official Honey Badger config). In the slots, the suppressor was upwards of 250 degrees. That means four-and-a-half pounds without a suppressor. We went into much more detail in this article, discussing how 300 AAC Blackout and the Honey Badger, then Advanced Armament Corporation projects (under then-CEO Kevin Brittingham, who’s now CEO at Q), were designed to replace the 9mm HK MP5SD for special operations sorts of use. It also packs a two NFA stamp minimum; a tax stamp for the SBR portion, and a tax stamp for the suppressor, so the gun becomes $3,600. Ergonomics  * *  Required fields are marked *. ©COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. $3,199.00. Q Honey Badger 7″ .300 Blackout Barrel – Review. First up was the pistol. . except where it isn’t. Immersion in that electrically-charged acid bath alters the color of the substrate, but each material reacts differently. The Q Honey Badger is not just another AR. My dad bought one. Q Honey Badger 300 BLK 7" W/ Silencer. There is not a single round that can accomplish both of the required tasks. Like, shockingly, surprisingly lightweight. It’s soft-shooting, smooth, and quiet. Extended, those measurements jump to 31.5 inches and 30.875 inches, respectively. The weapon, while initially sold as a pistol with an arm brace, has been reclassified as a short-barreled rifle, which requires registration and a $2oo tax fee. Overall  * * * * Don’t even think of holding the handguard anywhere in front of the gas block. Which, yes, it is designed to do. I will say this is easily the best 300 Blackout rifle ever conceived. Holding the barrel in place is a very lightweight and unique looking, 7075 aluminum barrel nut. In part one of this interview, we’ll focus on the Q Sugar Weasel.Later this week in part two, we’ll discuss the launch of the SIDE CHICK and get an update on the ongoing story of the 8.6 Creedmoor.. SIDE CHICK rifle chassis Q: Kevin, the Q Honey Badger has continued to be very, very popular. Check the daily deals, up to 40% off! Palmetto State Armory’s Daily Deals aim to provide our customers with new products and best sellers at amazing prices. Daily Deal product offerings include PSA’s American Made firearms, AR-15 parts and accessories, 9mm pistols, bulk ammo, magazines, optics, and so much more. Be part of the International Sportsman community. The official “Honey Badger,” whether for Operators or the commercial market, is the SBR (short barreled rifle) layout seen above with the 12-inch MLOK handguard and the skinnier Honey Badger suppressor (which is not available separately) run underneath it. Customization  * * * * Just a thought. He brought an improved version of the elusive Honey Badger to the consumer market. But most seem to like this look a lot. . Now that there was a cartridge that could hit the wish list, Birmingham and team at AAC could develop the rifle. We always deliver the best content right to you. This thing is just so light, and so well balanced, even with a suppressor. While the recoil pad of the shoulder stock is pinned in place, the plastic and rubber arm brace is molded directly onto the rails. Enter the Honey Badger by Q. The fit is just too close. We make it a priority to respond to your comments. Same reason there are more restrictions on handguns….until you add the muffler. Due to the weight, it points and shoots so naturally, you almost don’t even need to think about it. They would often modify BARs and semi-auto shotguns to fit underneath the coats, fitted with a strap that held it on the shoulder. The ATF’s letter notified Q that the Honey Badger pistol is now considered a Short barreled rifle (SBR) and ordered them to immediately cease production of the firearm unless it is registered on an ATF Form 2, declaring that they are manufacturing an NFA weapon. Grouse Hunting has No Impact on Hen Harrier Population, Lack of Land Management Contributed to Devastating Wildfire, Barnett’s HyperFlite A Breakthrough Small-Diameter Crossbow Arrows, Ripcord New for 2021: The CodeRedX And DriveCage, Mathews 2021 V3 Bow in Realtree EDGE Camo, New for 2021 Bowtech Carbon Zion and Zion DLX, Bloodsport’s Nitefall Hybrid Broadhead Provides Maximum Wound Channels, How to Carry Your Bow Hands Free? I slapped last year’s Christmas present to myself — the absolutely freakin’ fantastic Primary Arms TA44 ACSS ACOG — on the Honey Badgers for most of the testing. In response, Q has ceased all production of the Honey Badger Pistol, and submitted a comprehensive letterto ATF and the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) stating why we disagree with this classification. Please fill all of the fields correctly before continuing. Well, the pistol version looked a lot like the SBR version to the ATF. A few components are proprietary, but most parts are fully AR-15 compatible. So the stock or brace is awkward collapsed, and it’s awkward extended. So a short stock (check) with a grippy recoil pad (check) made with body armor-equipped Operator types in mind does belong on the Q Honey Badger. To further the wish list, special forces also wanted the gun to have the familiarity of use from the M4 with the compactness of the MP5. I’d buy a version with the short handguard and I’d have to figure something out for the stock. Caliber: 300 AAC Blackout (also available in 5.56 NATO with a 16-inch barrel only) That could be the case but they’re so close we couldn’t tell a difference. Seen above is five rounds with Hornady BLACK 208 grain A-MAX subsonic. . Discussion Starter • #1 • 2 mo ago. This thing is insanely light; everything that Q builds is light, whether it’s a silencer, a muzzle brake, or a gun. My personal 300 Blackout SBR feels like a tank compared to the Honey Badgers. Even back behind the gas block, handguard temps will eventually get toasty. Do not touch. Chris did a bunch of shooting with them as well. As we all know, firearms self-identify on a fluid spectrum. Then again, I haven’t done much operating lately and I don’t often wear body armor, so the stock, when collapsed, is absurdly freaking short. Q Sugar Weasel - 7" 300 BLK Pistol $1,499.00. The Honey Badger by Q has changed the game; this Next-Gen AR has brought another level of … Pistol orders will be fulfilled AFTER current rifles are filled. So customize away. We conduct in-depth, unbiased reviews on firearms and accessories. . This thing is amazingly suppressed. It’s not a full reversal of the ATF’s decision classifying Q, LLC’s Honey Badger pistol as a short-barreled rifle, but it’s a step in the right direction. Can’t wait to see all the new stuff in 2019. We look forward to providing content that engages you and keeps you coming back for more. Just throw that shoulder forwards. It should be since it was developed by the team that developed the round. Beyond that, the Honey Badger by Q represents one of the most flawless executions of a 300 Blackout PDW available anywhere. The Honey Badger Pistol by Q®: Your new EDC has arrived! Dear Customer: Last Friday, October 9, 2020, our attorneys received a letter from ATF Chief Counsel Joel Roessner “temporarily suspending the Cease and Desist letter” associated with the Honey Badger Pistol by Q®. It only has 2 positions; all the way in and all the way out, but I will say that it is comfortable for me and the vast majority of people who shot the badger. Next level stuff. After all, it’s the same barrel and such. Clear anodizing is the most durable form of anodizing, and it does cool things depending on what’s underneath. … It’s a gun made by a suppressor company, how do you think it suppresses? The ATF sent a cease and desist to Q, incorrectly claiming the Honey Badger Pistol to … New Hampshire-based Q announced Wednesday that federal regulators have given the company's Cease & Desist order over its Honey Badger pistol a 60-day suspension. Upper and lower are uniquely designed to accommodate the stock rails. At any rate, a button on the left side of the cheek piece releases the stock or brace so it can be extended. Anodizing is a very tough scratch-resistant coating for aluminum, and not only do I think it looks amazing I find it fascinating that there is no paint on the Honey Badger. 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They came up with what is basically an M4 with a very short barrel, a suppressor inside the handguard, and a proprietary buffer tube and collapsible stock that was very reminiscent of the MP5. In fact, it’s exactly precise with only a hair’s breadth between suppressor and handguard once things are snugged up. A hair over one-minute groups from a 7-inch-barreled gun with a super tight twist in a caliber not known for being particularly accurate. HoneyBadger owners could face major fines and criminal penalties if they don’t take immediate action to disassemble their pistols after the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives ruled that the popular firearm, manufactured by Q, LLC, is actually a short-barreled rifled (SBR). This little guy is a genuine TA44 Trijicon ACOG but with Primary Arms’ superlative rangefinder- and ballistic holdover-equipped ACSS reticle. Its size, weight, and quietness can’t be beat and it runs like a sewing machine. The Honey Badger’s rails are either locked all the way in or all the way out. Most importantly, 300 Blackout comes in two varieties subsonic and supersonic. At the end of the day I don’t like the stock. The handguard clamps onto it with an interesting and effective little QD-ish turnbuckle device. Including the integrated, oversized trigger guard. With no middle ground. Flat dark earth finish; Q pistol brace; 2-Position telescoping stock ; MLOK handguard; 2-stage match trigger; Additional information. Additionally, we have provided recommendations on how to address the firearms already in circulation. The SBR version of the Honey Badger weighs in at only 4 pounds 8 ounces. Many thought that this was as close to the Honey Badger as the civilian market would get. Learn More. Last Friday, October 9, 2020, our attorneys received a letter from ATF Chief Counsel Joel Roessner “temporarily suspending the Cease and Desist letter” associated with the Honey Badger Pistol by Q®. . If you don’t receive the email within 15 minutes, please check your spam folder. A gun, mind you, that just sought to keep things inside of about three or so MOA. At first glance, this Honey Badger appears to be the same as the unreleased original. The result is a bit fifty shades of FDE (plus gray). Short barrel = easier to hide…..like an evil pistol or sawed-off shotgun (gasp). I think we have a tactical version with threaded barrel and whatnot on the way for review in the near future. ATF Declares Q Honey Badger Pistol a “Short Barreled Rifle” October 6, 2020 by James Burton In a very concerning development this afternoon, we’ve just learned that the ATF has taken the position that the Q Honey Badger Pistol is, in fact, a short-barreled rifle. Either way — rifle or pistol — I strongly dislike everything happening behind the charging handle. The 7.62×51 doesn’t fit into the mag well of a AR-15. So how does it suppress? By starting with billets of aluminum rather than the standard forgings, the sky was the limit for custom touches. I want one! Or sign in with one of these services. Whether suppressed or unsuppressed (eww), it smoothly runs supersonic and subsonic ammo. The government has dictated what is and is not a pistol. Barrel Length: 7 inches for pistol and short barrel rifle, 16 inches for carbine As you can see above, the actual “pad” part is thicker front-to-back so the “length of pull” is a tad longer on the pistol than the rifle. Yes, naturally, the plus side is that the whole shebang fits in a small case and operates in a tight place. Even if the handguard itself is okay to touch up there, make the mistake of slipping a finger into one of those M-LOK slots or squeezing the hanguard tightly enough to squish some skin into a slot and you’ll come in full contact with the suppressor. This gives you a rifle and a feeling that is so much greater than just the combination of its parts. Please select which categories you'd like to receive updates on. It’s simply the lightest, quietest, best-tuned 300 Blackout AR-pattern gun going. Not that you’d want that, but any way you slice it this is one extremely light AR-15. He got the NP3 coated one for the heck of it. Enter the Honey Badger by Q. Sounds like one, too. The only change to the rifle is the barrel. Pretty standard: https://www.liveqordie.com/products/honey-badger-barrel-assembly/. Q Honey Badger - 7" 300 BLK Pistol $2,499.00. . Out near the muzzle, the barrel is threaded just in front of the low-profile gas block. LOL. While the TA44’s 1.5x zoom is great for any range within the capabilities of 300 Blackout, it isn’t ideal for rested accuracy testing at 100 yards. The first thing they did was take a look at the cartridge. At $0.65 give or take a couple of pennies every time you pull the trigger, the price of the weapon is an afterthought. Did he state how well the pistol version “shouldered”? Along with that, the magazines maintain their 30-round capacity. In response, Q has ceased all production of the Honey Badger Pistol, and submitted a comprehensive letter to ATF and the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) stating why we disagree with this classification. SIG SAUER MPX Copperhead Now in Black with Threaded Barrel, Ruger Custom Shop 10/22 Competition Rifle, Carbon Fiber Barrels by Helix 6 Precision, New CZ 527 American Synthetic Suppressor-Ready, Azimuth Technologies AZTP-22 Billet 10/22 Receiver, Remington 700 Mountain Stainless Now in 6.5 Creedmoor, More AK Wood Work: Soviet “Estonian” Green AKM Stock Set. Their thermal optics site is loaded with pics of the Revolution. Hate to break it too you folks, but those are not pistols. You should try it! It won’t entice you to place your hand too far forwards. Good job……now please get Glock to send you a 48 to review. You guys went crazy with camera, plenty of angles on the iron. Trigger: American Trigger Corp AR Gold (Keep it loaded, cross state lines, loan it to a friend, etc). It’s flawlessly tuned and timed. The 7-inch short barrel of this gun culminates in a 5/8×24 thread pitch muzzle with a tapered shoulder, and the suppressor threads directly onto it. For individuals who are searching for Honey Badger 300 Blk 7" Pistol Q review. The letter states that the suspension, “will remain in effect for a period of sixty (60) days . Please click on the link to activate your account. The shorter, fatter Trash Panda is just as quiet (or so close we couldn’t hear a difference), and with the shorter handguard I’m far less likely to grab it. Groups with Hornady BLACK 208 grain A-MAX subsonic ammo were very impressive. The rails, too-short cheek rest, and abbreviated receiver extension are identical between pistol and rifle. Amazing gun, great gas piston. The Revolution isn’t an AR-15 — it’s a hybrid, like a Colt LE901. Learn More. Contact support@internationalsportsman.com for help. It allows the use of a large diameter suppressor. I might get one of I could carry an SBR as a truck gun. Anchored by Power-Pole, Inshore Fishing Legend Mike Frenette Teams With Seaguar, Recreation and Research Inside the Arctic Circle. Once activated, you'll be able to login and comment on articles. I was curious about getting it in 300BLK but also the 556 barrel for, ahem, many shooting practice day$. Zeroing with supersonic ammo provides range holds of 200, 300, and 400 yards as well as appropriate holdovers for subsonic ammo out to 200. From the gas system to the trigger, and telescoping pistol brace – HB 2.0 does not disappoint. What is the Best Barrel Length for 45 ACP? You know, like Q’s Trash Panda. Back in August, ATF sent a cease and desist letter to Q LLC notifying the company that the agency had determined the Honey Badger, which comes equipped with a pistol stabilizing brace – to be subject to the National Firearms Act as a short-barreled rifle. Of course, it doesn’t help that there are fewer words than usual*. And it’s super light. Thank you for the reply! At first glance, this Honey Badger appears to be the same as the original. While working with US special forces on many projects; one was seeking a replacement for the MP5SD. I can’t say it’s what I would have chosen for a PDW (personal defense weapon), but it’s certainly a top shelf option that runs $280 on its own. Jeremy…I know it is….just like busting your chops. Then it’s time to water the Liberty Tree. Thanks to Silencer Shop, which carries all of Q’s products including the firearms, I was able to borrow the suppressors and SBR Honey Badger for quite a while and really put them through their paces. Twist Rate: 1:5 on 7-inch barrels, 1:6 on 16-inch 300 BLK barrel, and 1:8 on 16-inch 5.56 barrel When you build a 6.5 plasma blaster give me a call. Historical Context – Trench coats of varying lengths were the norm in the roaring 20s and early 30s among well-heeled gangsters. Out of stock Compare. Only five rotations will take the suppressor from removed to fully tight. While you’d have to go a bit nuts and dump magazine after magazine through the Honey Badger to get the first four inches of handguard hot enough to burn a bare hand, it will get warm pretty quickly and in front of the gas block becomes unusable right quick. The Honey Badger pistol weighs five pounds, six and three eighths ounces. At least without a few inches of body armor in the mix. Q, Honey Badger, Semi-automatic Pistol, 300 Blackout, 7″ Barrel, Flat Dark Earth Finish, Q Pistol Brace, 30Rd. POF builds a AR15 that runs 308. So it should be no surprise that I greatly prefer the shorty handguard, whether you’re going with a 7-inch barreled Honey Badger in pistol or SBR format. Fly Fishing for Billfish! Easily tied for the quietest semi-auto 300 Blackout I’ve shot. It’s one of my favorite rifles, but we’ve now very recently seen the launch of the Q Sugar … . Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It runs flawlessly, it’s astonishingly quiet, and not sure if it’s intentional, but the proprietary buffer system in the Honey Badger is very quiet, much quieter than a standard AR. The New Hampshire-based firearms company posted the Aug. 3 letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives advising that the Q Honey Badger pistol in … Flawless. For that I switched over to the SIG TANGO6 5-30×56, which is an awesome scope but it sure looks ridiculous on the Honey Badger. This is the right recipe. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued gun manufacturer Q LLC a “cease and desist” order to halt the manufacture of their Honey Badger AR Pistol. Everything flows really nicely and the machining and finish is flawless. No gas to the face, no other annoyance, as minimal of “pop” sound and noise out the ejection port as you’ll find anywhere with a bolt that cycles automatically. Maybe I’d just Dremel new notches into the stock rails so it locked out like two-thirds of the way. The only exception would be the non-NFA rifle configuration with a 16-inch barrel. Additionally, we have provided recommendations on how to address the firearms already in circulation. We'll send you a personalized email containing articles in the categories you've chosen. All that heat from the front of the handguard migrates down it rearwards. From the gas system to the trigger, and telescoping pistol brace – HB 2.0 does not disappoint. Q has gone top-of-the-line for trigger, ambidextrous safety selector, and charging handle. Out of stock. If that’s too slow, a sharp pull will pop it off its lock and slam it right to locked at full length. The overall length of the collapsed Honey Badger SBR with the official Honey Badger suppressor affixed is 26.5 inches, while the pistol with attached Trash Panda suppressor is 26 inches even. First, the stock moves on two rails, deployed by pressing a button. Subsonic rounds which are heavier and work great for close quarters combat have the added benefit of being extremely quiet with the use of a suppressor. There’s a very distinctive look to the Honey Badger, and that comes from the clear anodizing on the 7075-aluminum giving it that honey-like color. On the handguard itself, metal temperatures varied from about 180 to over 200 degrees. Now, with no notice or opportunity for public input, ATF appears to be reversing course. https://txhumor.com/products/grey-dont-california-my-texas-unisex-t-shirt. . Great write up BTW. Since 2012, ATF has repeatedly found that firearms with pistol stabilizing braces, like the one equipped on Q’s Honey Badger pistol, are not “designed, made, and intended to be fired from the shoulder,” and are therefore not subject to regulation under the NFA. Remington Model 783 Trigger Upgrade from Timney Triggers, Sako S20 Hybrid Rifle: Precision and Hunting Modularity, Triggered: ALG Defense QMS vs. Palmetto State Armory EPT, Sabatti Unveils STR Overwatch Precision Rifle, PTR Industries Brings Back Budget G3 Rifles, LaRue Tactical Unveils The Siete at SHOT Show 2020, WOOX Precision Rifle Chassis at SHOT 2020, Azimuth Technology Aztp-22 Precision Line. A 30-caliber bullet through an M4 platform it runs like a tank compared to the rifle is the weight the... 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